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Have now had a bit of time to play with the software and try out the ATEM 1. So far I am ‘neutral’ on the unit, there are many questions to be answered to see if it will live up to expectations. The fact that you cannot mix inputs and the media manager video length is so limited(see below) are huge negatives.

Initial findings:

The first units have shipped without:

  • Standard Definition video support
  • Media Express capture from USB 3.0 (Windows only)
  • Ultrascope Waveform Monitoring (Windows only)
  • Support for Quicktime and AVI files in the media managers

There will be ‘updates’ to fix these missing functions.

While the Blackmagic Design website says the ATEM 1 will support different camera/computer formats the unit will only accept inputs which are all the same. You cannot mix and match inputs, there is no inbuilt scaling. So you cannot for example mix a 720P cameras and a 1080i camera.

The Media Manager in 1080i mode will only hold 180 frames (yes frames!) of video, eg 3 6 seconds. 360 frames in 720P, 6 seconds. This is only good for transitions not for showing video clips. To show video you will have to use a computer as a video source.

Have asked my contact at Blackmagic Design in the UK some questions to confirm my findings and to try and get answers to some other questions.

UPDATES (29 June 2011) after talking with Blackmagic Design:

  • The ATEM 1 and 2 M/E do NOT have H.264 output (but the Televsion Studio does). Both the 1 M/E and 2 M/E switchers send uncompressed 10 bit YUV.
  • Media Manager – Because you have every two interlaced frames forming a complete frame, you are actually looking at 6 seconds at 30 frames per second in 60i. You get 360 frames in 720p (again 6 seconds) and 900 frames in SD (that’s 30 seconds).

See all the TTFN TV Blackmagic Design ATEM Videos at www.ttfn.tv/atem

An introduction to the ATEM Control Panel and the ATEM Multiview………

 

41 comments
Vance Willis

Great information on the ATEM-1! I look forward to the updates that Blackmagic Designs should make soon.

Vance Willis

Ralph Lindstrom

Hi Mark,

I just got my ATEM 1ME on Friday and have been playing with it! My question for you is did you notice that the software control panel uses a lot of CPU? I am running Windows. On an E8500 with Win XP32 the CPU usage is 50%! On an I7-950 with Win7 Ultimate the CPU is 13%. This is an awful lot of CPU for just a control panel!! What is your CPU usage like with the MAC? I imagine when people try using garden variety laptops with the switcher, Blackmagic will have to fix this. What are your thoughts?

I really have enjoyed your videos on the ATEM! It’s like having a friend to explore this new technology with. Keep it up!

    Mark

    Hi Ralph, on my 2 year old MacBook Pro (2.4 dual core?) the CPU image is around 10% rising to 25% when using the T-bar. As you say this is high for what should just be a dumb control panel. Have you looked at the network load? I haven’t yet but will see how much data is being sent.

    Thanks for posting and keep in touch!

Setiawan Kartawidjaja

Dear Mark,

Thanks for making this review. I just saw this ATEM Switchers during Broadcast Asia 2011 last week (June 20-24th) and found this one very very interesting. My target possibly will just be ATEM TV Studio (should be similar with ATEM1 demonstrated here).

One thing I would like to ask is the computer we connect to ATEM switcher for the user-interface control. The only requirement I read is 1400×900 display.
Will it work using small netbook added with secondary display monitor of 1400×900 (seems 19″) ?
(If this can work, at least my old equipment is not retired yet 😉 )

Regards,

Set

    Mark

    Hi Set,

    the Blackmaagic Display control panel is fixed so can’t be resized. You should be able to drag it to the secondary display window but you may want to get someone to test it fot you first!

    Mark

      Dennis Howlett

      Do you know if the software will run on an iPad? If so then that would be almost like having a physical device

        Mark

        Hi,

        no the software will not run in an iPad. You may be able to use air display (I will try this) but you wont be able to see all the ATEM control panel screen due to it’s size but you will should be able to view the main switching section.

        Regards, Mark

Chris

Thanks Mark for a fantastic and very detailed review. I’m really excited about this new generation of mixers from Blackmagic Design, looks like they are going to make waves in live production just like they have done within post.

Could you please answer one question for me? I would love to know whether the multiview HDMI output relies on having a full HD 1920 x 1080 monitor or if I connect a screen with a lower native resolution like 1280 x 720, will the multiview scale or not?

Jost

Hi Mark!

Thanks for both very interesting reviews, hope to see another one soon about Keyers and DVE’s. There are to questions you might be able to answer:
1) How is the uncompressed feed from the USB-Port used on the computer? Is it possible to capture it with Premerie, like a firewire-camera, or do I need additonal equipment for that?
2) As you have spoken to someone at Blackmagic: Is there an expected date or at least a month for the SD-Support-Update?

Kind regards from Germany!

    Mark

    HI Jost,

    to answer your questions –

    1) The feed from the USB port is not enabled yet. Awaiting a firmware upgrade from Blackmagic. Media Express 3 should be enabled to capture this feed, so recording should be no problem.

    2) Unfortunately don’t have a date as yet. There are several functions are awaiting this upgrade. Don’t forget when we get SD support all the inputs and outputs will have to be SD, you cannot mix HD and SD, or even different HD formats.

    Hope this helps.

    Regards, Mark

James Morgan

I ended up using an ATEM 1 M/E Chassis and Panel this weekend just gone for a live sports broadcast, and learned a lot of things about it that I otherwise probably would never have known. To summarize, this is a product with a lot of potential that has some pretty serious flaws in the current software revision. Some will no doubt be fixed, but as for how many of these and when, who knows?

Here are some of the Pros:
– Multiviewer allows full frame rate and looks nice.
– Chassis itself is small and feels solid.
– Running in Full HD looks great.
– The Photoshop plugin worked fairly well.
– The stinger transitions are great.
– The broadcast panel was very solidly built, and the buttons felt great. I liked the feel of the t-bar, but a couple of others said it wasn’t what they expected.
– The tri-colour LCD buttons to the right of the main display on the panel are just about worth the money themselves.
– The ability to move/fly keys was great.

Cons:
– No scalers built in unless explicitly stated. Therefore the unit is extremely particular about what it will and wont accept as inputs. I had it reject two laptops and a DVD recorder (all set to what the ATEM says it wants). Meaning your AUXs, etc on the output will all be the same as the input format too. Blackmagic doesn’t plan to do anything about this one.
– The heatsink on the chassis has very sharp, unrefined edges, so if you’re not looking very well while patching (eg; patching the back of a rack from the front) you could get a nasty cut.
– The heatsink fans are very thin and bend very easily.
– The layout of the connectors is such that they have what must just about be the minimum required clearances from each other which can make patching hard.
– The power adapter for my chassis made a constantly changing high-pitched noise. I don’t know why, but in a quiet environment it was very, very annoying.
– The unit does get very hot while in operation.
– The Multiviewer doesn’t give you a choice where you’d like the labels on the inputs overlaid or if you’d like them labelled at all, which means you’ll have an input label obscuring a lower third graphic in a media player. You also can’t switch the sides of Program and Preview, or choose to remove the guide markers on the preview screen. In my case while trying to switch I found it distracting because the Program and Preview were exactly the same size leading me to forget which was the live source. Maybe it was just me?
– The chassis doesn’t allow you to re-map crosspoints, which in the case of our live switch was quite a significant problem. We would traditionally run our sources (1-6) Cam1, Cam2, Cam3, Cam4, PC/DSK, Replay, but on the Atem we were forced to run as (1-8) Spare, Spare, PC/DSK, Cam3, Cam1, Cam2, Cam4, Replay. Not an easy switch, and a pretty severe limitation.
– The chassis only saves settings for which input and down-conversion format, multiviewer layout and camera labels. Therefore, when you disconnect power your media pool will be cleared, as well as all settings for transitions, keys, etc. I saw no way to even be able to backup the config to a PC. A huge mistake.
– The PC interface is pretty useless. It’s designed for high resolution displays only, so most laptops wont be able to see a third of it at a time. I don’t know why it would be designed this way – the switcher section is very large for no appreciable reason. Sure, it could be for a touch screen, but I couldn’t imagine wanting to use this software on one. The foldable/unfoldable menus for configuring keyers, mediaplayers, etc, was not a very good design – it means in the middle of a live production you’re having to look too many clicks deep, and worse yet – many of the folders are too tall to fit on the screen so you have to scroll around.
– Trying to set up keyers was an exercise in tedium. You couldn’t rely on using pre-shaped keys from Photoshop because everything would come out at far less opacity than was usable. I’m not sure if the Photoshop plugin exported images with alpha channels, but using the Blackmagic instructions it looked as though it didn’t.
– While the effects for flying/moving keys were good, the way you had to trigger them was not. You couldn’t make a key (eg; a DVE) fly in from infinity as a transition, you had to bring the key live and then either unfold the keyer config and tell it to do that, or on the panel you had to go around 5 button presses deep. Not very good live.
– I’m not sure how you’d go trying to arrange (move, size) PIPs on the software panel, but I’d imagine it is not much fun. Luckily if you have the panel you can use the joystick.
– There is no support for macros or commonly used functions which would have been very welcome.
– To update the software on the chassis you have to connect it via USB (cable not supplied). I don’t even know if the software panel can get auto updates.
– The media players only support clips that are a series of still images. Hardly ideal. Apparently it will be fixed in future.
– My chassis kept losing ethernet connection with my panel requiring a power cycle.
– The audio breakout cable supplied is very, very poor quality.
– The Atem strips out all incoming audio on SDI/HDMI inputs, which is a shame.
– The screen on the broadcast panel is fairly cryptic and difficult to follow.
– There is a pretty number pad on the panel that appears to do nothing.
– The t-bar doesn’t do anything when you have stinger selected as the active transition, which in some ways makes sense, but if you’re like me and use a stinger to transition to a replay, and dissolves between cameras when not in a replay it means you can’t set up a stinger and until the replay is ready use the t-bar to do dissolves. This is probably a personal thing.
– Unlike most transitions you can’t pause a running stinger by pressing the auto button again. This was pretty annoying when configuring the stinger because you would like to run it in slow motion or pause it to make sure you’ve got the timings right.
– An undocumented but cute feature on the panel is that you can quickly double tap a crosspoint on the preview row to perform the action of shift+selecting that crosspoint. Not so useful if you accidentally double tap and get something silly like a colour or bars.
– The shift key lives next to either the program or preview (can’t remember) row and makes it look like it’s for use on that row only. It’s not – it’s for the program, preview and FX row at the top, as well as a bunch of other things on the switcher.
– You need to hold the shift key down to be able to select shifted crosspoints, which may not suit everyone. I know I would have liked the option to be able to have the shift key latch.
– Setting up chroma keys wasn’t a lot of fun; you have to do it by dragging a chroma bar left to right, which doesn’t do much for being exact.

There’s more, but I’m running out of steam. Basically this has the potential to be a powerful switcher, but is let down badly by the current software. I couldn’t purchase one until at least some of this is fixed.

James.

    Mark

    James,

    Many thanks for taking the time to post this. Am sure many people will benefit from reading it.

    Have discovered many of the ‘cons’ you list. One of the major problem for is is on you list – losing all the settings when you power off. With the software control panel it can take quite a while to set up keyers and the you lose them when powering off. There must be an update that allows you to save all the settings and the media pools, and this needs to support multiple saves/restores so you can recall the settings/profiles for different programs/occasions.

    The difficulty of doing PIP will also put a lot of people off.

    Many of these concerns can be fixed in software/firmware updates. Blackmagic are I believe listening!

    Mark

    Gerbrand Oudenaarden

    Hi James,

    Thanks so much for taking the time to write doen your experiences. Very valuable!

    If you remember more cons in the following days, we would love to hear them. I also have some:

    – there is just a single (2D) DVE. (even on the 2 ME switcher), meaning that you can only do one PiP with scaling. The other PiPs can only be achieved by a combination of keying and cropping. The 2 ME switcher is supposed to have a feature ‘Supersource’ which allows 4 PiPs on a background but specifics are not known. Most switchers have at least 2 DVEs built-in, and often they’re 3D, not 2D.

    – the inability to remap crosspoints is a very severe limitation indeed. Sources 1-4 are (mostly) HDMI, but I would use these for laptops. And I want my camera’s to be called 1, 2, 3. And have these under buttons 1, 2, and 3.

    – in addition to saving the entire state of the switcher, I would really like to see a way to store specific settings, that can be recalled as an ‘event’ or ‘scene’., maybe using the numeric keypad that’s unused so far.

    – there is no way to monitor (and adjust) audio levels

    – too bad that there is no way of setting whether audio from embedded sources should be stripped or kept. this makes the upcoming hyperdeck studio player, which was designed as i was told to work with the ATEM switchers line, a lot less interesting. Because these players don’t have a seperate audio out, only embedded in SDI and HDMI.

    – when a source is selected for an AUX, there is no tally indication. Some switchers allow for a third color (orange) to be used for this.

    – once the SD operation modes becomes possible, the multiviewer output will also be SD. Imagine that. That must be completely unusable.

    – it would be great when external control panels (such as the control panel from the videohub family) can be used to select sources for aux busses. this is not possible (yet) however.

    – the software panel is not applescriptable, so it’s hard to develop your own workaround for some of the mentioned limitations.

    Best,
    Gerbrand

      Mark

      Gerbrand,

      Thanks for commenting. I understand that there are plans for an SDK, but let’s hope most of the shortcomings are fixed by Blackmagic soon.

      Mark

      Mark

      Gerbrand, would be good to move this discussion to the new Forum!

      FYI have been told that when the SD mode becomes available multiview will be in 1080i, which is good news!.

      Mark

    Matthew Clark

    Re: It’s designed for high resolution displays only, so most laptops wont be able to see a third of it at a time

    Just curious what resolution you are running the software control panel at, i have a 15″ pc laptop running at 1366×768. Just wondering if i will run into the same problem.

    Jason

    James,

    I’m curious if an input’s embedded audio is indeed stripped at the input, or simply not mixed into the ATEM’s output. IE: will embedded audio from an input be passed to an Aux output?

    If not, what audio is sent to the Auxes when selecting specific sources.

Mark

James, Gerbaand, Vance, Jost, Ralph, Set, Dennis, Chris and others:

There is a lot of interest in the Blackmagic Switchers. Views of the videos are in the thousands and growing rapidly! Someone suggested we should start a forum to share information, highlight the good and the bad, and build a reference of information.

Have setup the TTFN TV forums which can be found by following the menu at the top of the page or by following this link – http://www.ttfn.tv/forums-2/ So far have only added the Blackmagic swtchers and a general forum as have no plans to run other forums at the moment. This is aimed at the ATEM and Television Studio products for now.

You need to register on the site to get access which can be done from the forums page.

Hope you will join and post so we can create a useful resource for everyone!

Mark

Jairo

Mark,
I have been reading your blog and I wanted to ask you a question. How do you capture video with ATEM 1 M/E Production Switcher if Mac’s don’t have USB 3.0? We have been wanting to buy an ATEM but we are not sure about the compatibility with Mac’s.
Thanks,
Jairo

    Mark

    Hi Jairo,

    Good question.

    We are recording to a Mac Pro equipped with a Blackmagic Design Decklink SDI card. It should shortly be possible to record to any Thunderbolt equipped Mac using an SDI to Thunderbolt converter such as the Blackmagic Design Ultrastudio 3D.

    Please join the TTFN Forums and check out the ATEM section. Feel free to ask more questions there.

    Mark

Leandro Santos

Hi Mark, first of all thank you for the information sharing.

I got a dumb question.

How to play video files using a macbook pro and display it using the Blackmagic ATEM 1 during a live presentation that already have couple cameras Sony EX3 – set to 1080 60i signal? is this possible? do I need to have any other equipment? and The video format for the output cicle, does it need to be in any special format?

Thank you very much in advance.

    Mark

    Hi Leandro,

    this is not a dumb question.

    What we do here is to connect the MacBpok Pro or iMac to the ATEM 1 using a mini displayport to HDMI adapter and HDMI cable. We set the output of the second display on the Mac to match the input sof the ATEM 1 (1080i50 in our case) and it just works as a regular HDMI input.

    You can apparently use some other Mac/PC resoultions on the HDMI inputs and the ATEM1 will scan convert (not scale) them to the right size, but we have not tried this.

    Whatever you display on the second Mac screen will be sent to the ATEM 1, so format does not matter.

    Hope this helps.

    Do look at the TTFN TV ATEM forums.

    Mark

Steve

Hello Mark, many thanks for your detailed replys about the ATEM 1. Hope you dont mind answering a second dumb question! One of the advantages pointed out in the blogs I’ve read so far is the ability of the switcher to use relatively cheap HD Plasma/LCD TV screens for the multiview and programme output and I wondered if the mutiviewer output were hooked up to a progressive scan 1080p monitor, would it still be able to display 1080i camera inputs in the mutiview? Thx. Steve

    Mark

    Hi Steve,

    Am not sure I can answer this. Think you would need to check the specs of the monitor. If it is 1080P only then the answer will be no. But the monitors I have used tend to support multiple formats.

    You may want to ask this in the TTFN forums.

    Mark

Jon Solo

Hey Mark,

Great job on answering all these in depth questions regarding the ATEM switchers from Blackmagic Design. I think theyre revolutionary in regard to their price and form factor. I just find them to be a bit limited in their feature sets (as of now.) My main concern is in regard to the limited set of supported HD formats and frame rates on the Blackmagic ATEMs. 1080i50, 1080i59.94, 720p50, 720p59.94 covers but a few of the HD signals I would need an HD production switcher to support. I know 1080PsF frame rates are not normal for studio cameras to output but the capability to handle 1080PsF23.98, 1080PsF24, 1080PsF25, 1080PsF29.97, 1080PsF30, 1080p23.98, 1080p24, 1080p25, 1080p29.97 would make the ATEM switchers much more attractive. Could these formats be added via software update or are they limitations of the hardware itself?

Thanks

Kaleb

If the ATEM 1 doesn’t scale any inputs, how can it have 1 composite analog input? It seems it would have to scale to use that along side the other HDMI/HD-SDI inputs?

Jim

hi everyone 😉 does enybody have the ATEM 2M/E?

I want to find some answears about the ATEM 2 M/E
can the ATEM 2 M/E work with the ATEM 1 M/E control panel AND the software remote together?
and if it can… dose the software have full remote cabability like the 2m/e panel.?

P.E. i want to bye the atem 2m/e with 1m/e panel for the master bus, and the software for the second m/e and the fx.

alen nor mahat

I really loved your video and forums,
Here I have some questions about SWITCHER blackmagic atem 1 m / e,

ok, the company where I work we use atem 1 m / e new almost two weeks, for the information after the installation of all equipment SWITCHER run smoothly, but when we use live almost a week to plan and suddenly a voice from the mixer did not come out to the SWITCHER

our diagram

SWITCHER ATEM 1 M / E – AUDIO INPUT TO YAMAHA MIXER – TO PLAYBOX – SERVER OPTIC

need opinion from you

    Mark

    Hi,

    Not sure exactly what you are trying to do, and what your question is.

    The ATEM 1 strips the audio from all the inputs. You have to mix the audio on you mixer and feed the output into the ATEM audio input.

    There was a problem with the early firmware that did cause some problems with the audio. Check you have the latest firmware.

    Mark

Jewels

Can i incorporate ATEM 1 M/E into my existing network for remote handling.

    Mark

    Hi,

    Yes you can put the ATEM 1 on you current network and anyone on the network can use the software control panel. You can have multiple control panels running at the same time! You should of course be careful not to do this on a heavily loaded network

    Mark

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